Recently I had the great pleasure of interviewing Lump‘s Bill Thelen. I approached him with a few questions and (which Bill was gracious enough to answer even hanging in through my rather convoluted, circuitous, and stop-and-go e-mail trail) as I was curious to learn more about the early days of Lump, memorable exhibitions from those days as well as its importance in the current art scene in North Carolina. My timing was also fortuitous as this September’s coming season marks Lump’s 15th year so it seems an appropriate time to share a little history about one of the Triangle’s most adventurous art venues…
Dave Delcambre: Can you tell me a bit about the founding of Lump, who all was involved and the decision to start the gallery?
Bill Thelen: I moved to Raleigh in 1995. I was looking for a studio space in the downtown area and Med Byrd found a building that was available for sale, not for rent. It made more sense to buy the building instead of just renting, so we proceeded to purchase it. The building was divided into two halves so we decided to use one side for studios and to have exhibitions on the other side. We quickly rented the studios and Michael Salter was one of our first tenants.
Q: So from the very beginning, the building was purchased as a collaborative effort? Did you always see it as some sort of joint / artist group effort?
A: Not really, it was much more organic than having a curatorial viewpoint or a specific mission. In the beginning, I just saw the gallery as a space where people could explore ideas and be used for things to happen. We were just responding to what was going on in the art world. The collaborative aspect of the gallery and the conception of Team Lump didn’t happen until much later.
Q: What about the the very earliest shows in the space? Were they explorations then by your new tenants that you had just met through renting studio space to them? I’m curious about the oversight of the space and if in the beginning you were picking work based on what seemed interesting or timely and then mixing up shows for variety?
A: The earliest shows were simply about getting work up on the walls. Our very first show was a collection of eight local photographers, the second show featured the three tenants, the show after that was “Snap, Crackle, Pop” which featured work by Andrea Lekberg, Dale Flattum, Kate Anthony, and Paul Friedrich. But I felt we really hit our stride with the 4th show with an installation by Laura Sharp Wilson, who was a grad student at UNC. This was our first solo show and artists began to see the potential in the space. I believe this was the turning point where I started to deviate from the thought of being a commercial gallery and began to see us more as an artist’s space.
Q: What about the gallery’s audience and their reaction in those early days? Did the Wilson show also prove successful with regards to expanding the gallery’s reach into a wider community as well?
A: It is a difficult time for me to look back on. On one hand it was a lot of fun, but on the other hand people were pretty dismissive of the work we were presenting. It was very disheartening. You worked so hard to find interesting artists, help out with the installation and I understand once the show is up you want to celebrate. But, we were noticing that after the keg was empty so was the gallery. We really had to re-evaluate what kind of audience we were cultivating. All of us were working full-time, going to grad school, making our own work, etc… I mean really struggling, but we knew we were onto something pretty unique to this area. We kind of just gave up caring what people thought of us and that’s when things started to became more interesting.
Q: Once you reached that point and were able to let go, did you have any one particular moment you can point to that led you to believe that you were really on to something? I’m thinking of say a particular work that might have clicked in its reception or maybe a critical reaction that stands out in your mind. That sense of not caring anymore about what others thought must have been so freeing I would think.
A: Every show has been a success on many different levels. Having access to artists come and stay with us has been the most fulfilling aspect of running the gallery. I mean we ask a lot of the artists who come and do shows. We can’t even afford to make cards for them, ship their work or help them get down here. All we can offer is total artistic control over their exhibitions, a place to stay, help with the installation if they need it and home cooked meals.
In terms of earlier shows…off the top of my head, Ludwig Schwarz shows just blew our minds, Kirsten Stoltmann videos and Willie Gregory installing from Chicago, Barnstormers (hauling over a hundred speakers down from Brooklyn and dancing all night), Andrew Jeffrey Wright and Barry McGee totally wrecking the gallery in the most awesome way, David Ellis inside the gallery and out, elin slavick o’Hara’s 400 lb light box, taking Shephard Fairey around in broad daylight and night to bomb the city, Dana Raymond’s total transformation of the gallery, Jen Talbot’s performance…
Q: Have the shows evolved along the lines you thought they might? I’m curious if the gallery’s development has been anything like what you might have dared imagine when Lump was just starting out. Were you able to allow yourself any preconceptions about what form the shows might take? The variety you just described just seems so incredibly vibrant and it must have been very invigorating to see these shows get up and going…
A: The exhibitions have exceeded my expectations in many ways. When we first opened the space, I only wanted a studio, but there was no place in the budget to allow me one. Curating the gallery made me temporarily shift my focus from my own studio practice to facilitating the works of others. So in a sense, I thought I really needed to be working with artists who I found interesting, challenging and inspiring.
In terms of my own preconceptions, I was an open book and really did my research. Before coming to Raleigh, I was living in San Francisco and was pretty immersed in the local art scene. I didn’t have a tv and spent all my free time going to exhibitions, lectures, openings and reading about contemporary art. I also volunteered and interned at New Langston Arts, Kiki and Build. Before that, I traveled extensively through Europe, worked at the Milwaukee Art Museum, completed my BFA and was ready for new challenges.
Q: Have you noticed a change in the audience over time? Has the gallery’s evolution coincided with different audiences embracing the work and various exhibitions?
A: I am proud to say we still have some of the people attending our exhibitions from the very first opening! People have been very loyal to us. I hope our audience is evolving as the space does. I think our audience recognizes that we are a pretty adventourous space and have come with an open mind. We are also aware that people may latch on to some shows and not to others. It ‘s the nature of the beast.
Q: Has working with the various artists you mentioned also invigorated your own artistic practice as well? I hope that curating the gallery hasn’t been too much of a shift away from your own work but I imagine at times it must be hard to strike a balance between the two?
A: With every show we do, I am inspired in some way or another. I get excited to be around other artists and see how their work transforms from a proposal to the studio to the gallery. I tend to compartmentalize my own life a lot, so this schematic seems to work for for me. Every free moment I have I am usually thinking about art, whether it’s my own work, something I saw, or an artist we are considering for the gallery – gears are turning.
Lump’s upcoming season starts on September 3, 2010 with an exhibition by Thad Kellstadt










































































Josh George
Following up on my review of Josh George‘s work at Gallery C in last week’s Indy which can be viewed here, thought a few extra pics of George’s work posted here were warranted as well. George’s skills with layering and collage really emerge in close up examination of his surfaces. It’s where the real action is. I’m still processing the odd delight that resides in the contrast between his vivid textures, lively paint handling, and collage interactions all of which belie the scale of the works themselves. As is often the case, these are paintings which are not done justice in reproduction. Even seen secondhand though the artist’s vibrant mixes of paint, paper, cloth and panel seem are doing their best to generate their own inner actinic reciprocities.
Contemporary Works by Josh George at Gallery C in Raleigh continues through September 7, 2010